“Wait, Is This a night out together?” Podcast Episode 206: Celebrity Crushes | Autostraddle

It actually was my cousin’s turn to select the flick at Blockbuster and she’d selected

A Walk to Remember

. “Sorry. This is exactly a female movie,” my mom warned. Whenever we had gotten house and watched it as a family group, i did not program my personal tears. Or my personal need. I did not admit that I liked the film and, even more important, cherished top honors. The year ended up being 2002 and between Mandy Moore inside movie and Avril Lavigne issuing the woman first record, I’d found the two kinds of star crushes that would haunt the remainder of my childhood.

Celebrity crushes indicate more to queer folks than they do to straight people. They could be the first expressions of queer desire or our basic expressions of gender jealousy. They could be a safe location to test urges that are not prepared the real life.

For this reason recently we’re speaking with publisher and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola all about celeb crushes. We mention just how star thirsting feels comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic grey asexual person. We speak about the way I believe nearly all of my personal celeb crushes tend to be types of attainable. And, definitely, we discuss the well-known earlier ladies on Christina’s water container.

But first! Christina quizzes myself on a topic I know little about — lesbian love novels

SHOW RECORDS

+ the actual romance books referenced in our game happened to be:

The X Element

,

Breaking Character

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Reality

.

+ My reference for just two fans sharing a wall:

+ Christina’s reference for two lovers sharing a wall:

+ listed here are all of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

A Straightforward Podcast

The Entire Movie Podcast

Aughtsterion

Tragedy Women

Feeling Seen

+ My famous

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If anything like me, you may have little idea whom Lindsay Shookus is,
discover a timeline
of her union with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is very fearless of myself, because Really don’t remember everything I wrote back at my Tumblr, but here is a hyperlink to
my personal Nicole Kidman job
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Rolling Rock address
.

+ a note to watch

P-Valley

and read
Natalie’s insurance
.

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EPISODE

Jordan:

Literally every time Jennifer Connelly’s face jumped abreast of display screen, each and every time i recently went, “Oh, God.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, God,” like every drilling time.

[theme tune plays]

Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.

Christina:

And That I’m Christina.

Drew:

And thanks for visiting Hold Off, So Is This A Romantic Date?.

Christina:

You are aware, hold, Is This a romantic date? is an Autostraddle podcast whereby I consistently forget about exactly who says exactly what, no matter how long we have taped. Uh, i do believe that is in fact really beautiful. And my personal earphones only fell right off my personal mind. So.

Drew:

So a solid s—, powerful begin.

Christina:

A good start. But primarily, it really is a podcast about matchmaking and, like, figuring out just what relationship is of course, if we realize how exactly to get it done, like we ascertain if I can keep my own headsets back at my damn head.

Drew:

That’s fantastic. Um, my name is Drew Gregory. I’m (laughs) I’m, uh… Or do you… But do you want us to stay thereon longer? I am getting looks.

Christina:

No, I Am simply home…

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

…on myself.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

It’s best should you decide chat, I think. (laughs)

Drew:

Right. Um, uh, I am Drew Gregory. I’m a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I am a queer trans girl besides. Those are identification brands that I have. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, absolutely. I’m Christina Tucker. Im in addition a writer at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And truly, this month I really and truly just been like a female about area. I really just already been like—

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

—woman at large, generally in several—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—beaches, uh, from inside the Jersey Shore.

Drew:

You probably have actually.

Christina:

Yet still feeling extremely at-large and whimsical in a manner that now we clearly think fatigued by.

Drew:

Sure.

Christina:

I am dark and homosexual, hence rocks for me personally.

Drew:

I adore that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I am not sure exactly why I’m thus strange nowadays. We, like, have no idea which I am. What are you doing?

Drew:

It is ok. We are going to remain goin’.

Christina:

Everything I possess, though, Drew, is a game title.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Thank Jesus.

Christina:

Which game Im evaluating your knowledge of one thing I Am Aware that you don’t have countless understanding of, which can be—

Drew:

Oh Jesus.

Christina:

–fun. Um, its a… it’s labeled as… I don’t actually have a reputation for it. I perhaps should’ve considered a reputation. But fundamentally, I’m going to offer you three lesbian love games, and you’re heading—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—to need tell me exactly what are the real types in the three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two We have produced, one is genuine. And you’re gonna need certainly to find the actual one and tell me how you feel it’s about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Isn’t it time?

Drew:

Im. Exactly what a great video game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Right here we go. The most important three.

The X Ingredient

,

The It Factor

, and

The facts of Us

.

Drew:

Huh. its funny, ’cause you would believe

The X Element

would really be

The X Element

together with

The It Factor

, but—

Christina:

Certain.

Drew:

I want to say… i simply… Oh, I’m hoping I am not unintentionally insulting you, but personally i think like

The X Element

is the clunkiest, which means you won’t attended up with that. It has to be genuine.

Christina:

You might be appropriate. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I Am so happy.

Christina:

Exactly what do you imagine

The X Element

is all about?

Drew:

Um, In my opinion its about two lesbians that are exes and become on the same truth cooking reveal that’s kind of like

Chopped

, but, like, somewhere within

Chopped

and

Fantastic British Baking Program

. Like, it goes on for a while however it features kind of the elements of

Chopped

. Um, and they’re exes therefore… its type of like a… I don’t know whether or not it would count as an opponents to enthusiasts since they had been fans at one-point, but it is like an exes to straight back with each other.

Christina:

I love that. I also like that by asking to inform myself what you believe these books go for about, i have merely produced you generate love plots.

Drew:

I adore it.

Christina:

That’s really enjoyable. Uh, regrettably

The X Ingredient

is clearly, uh, about an assistant just who sleeps together with her employer. As soon as I started reading it last week regarding coastline, I stated, “this can be absolutely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic which includes turned into an actual publication.” When I reveal we take a look at

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, we pretty sure have. So’s a journey.

Drew:

Wait, but why is it known as

The X Ingredient

?

Christina:

Well, during the initial fanfic, the X component was… There seemed to be some kind of reason that Miranda had each of the woman assistants, uh, eat this lady out to climax. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Cannot really keep in mind precisely what the, the story, the backstory ,was thereon, um, but in new one, inside actual printed adaptation i ought to state, uh, the X component i suppose is actually, I’m not sure, just, like, that the woman assistant’s hot and she is similar, “Oh, i will be homosexual today and I wanna make love along with her.” Like, I’m not sure. The X ingredient is hot.

Drew:

Sufficient for me personally. Okay.

Christina:

There you decide to go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Cracked Hearts Club

…

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

…

Busting Character

,

Going for Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, dozens of seem like they may be actual. I must say I want it to be

Breaking Personality

, but I think

Cracked Hearts Club

is actual.

Christina:

Sadly,

Reduced Hearts Club

just isn’t real. And lucky available,

Busting Character

is actually genuine.

Drew:

Oh my Jesus, i will’ve merely eliminated using my impulse.

Christina:

Choose your abdomen, babe.

Drew:


Busting Personality

. Okay, truly about a kind of like the female Daniel Day-Lewis, like a female actor just who takes the woman technique operating very seriously, and she develops a commitment together co-star. But her co-star, it’s uncertain for both the woman co-star and also for the actor if the co-star is during love together with her or in really love with her fictional character. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

Really, that is not far-off from the genuine story of

Splitting Personality

, which will be indeed about two performers, one who is, uh, already been labeled as a bitch it is in no way, but is just getting, uh, badmouthed by the woman showrunner because she actually is on like a

Grey’s Structure

sort health show—

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

—that has really eliminated off the rails. The woman fictional characteris the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, the woman brand new co-star summertime — yes it’s true, her name is summertime — is very charming and delightful. And considering really bonkers story explanations, they need to have a fake commitment. Nevertheless They’re both gay so…

Drew:

So nothing occurs. They don’t develop any thoughts.

Christina:

Yeah, so they really do not… Yeah, absolutely nothing.

Drew:

They never ever connect. No.

Christina:

Nothing happens. They never ever mention it and additionally they not have intercourse.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, that is what happens.

Drew:

Often which is the way it goes.

Christina:

Fine, your future three.

Resort Queens

,

Media Moguls

, or

Restaurant Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I’m gonna follow my impulse and go with the one which I want to end up being real—

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

—and hope that that is actual.

Resort Queens

.

Christina:


Hotel Queens

is actually genuine.

Drew:

Wow, I’m destroying it. (laughs)

Christina:

You’re eliminating this. For someone who maybe not read a ton of lesbian relationship, uh, its inside bloodstream, girl.

Drew:

Okay, i’ll today say the land that i really hope really, though i am confident based on my knowledge of publishing market this isn’t the case. But I want that it is about two participants on a show much like, like,

Drag Race

’cause you’re not really supposed to, want, take each other’s spaces but, you realize, they stay in a lodge throughout the entire recording on the tv series. So they really establish, like, a sort of remarkable affair that for quite some time can’t be consummated, but their areas are alongside both so they, like, knock on the wall in between them following when they’re shooting, absolutely the same as every tension and it’s really… And yeah, that is, that is what i would like

Resort Queens

becoming when it comes to.

Christina:

That seems very hot. Um, that is not just what

Hotel Queens

is approximately. It’s just about a woman just who runs hotels and, uh, another woman just who runs a competing hotel.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Whom works for a fighting hotel sequence and they, uh—

Drew:

Sure, sure, sure.

Christina:

—quite actually tend to be hotel queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But I adore that electricity. I enjoy the slamming on the… extremely, uh,

hit 3 x regarding the threshold if you like me personally

energy, that we like.

Drew:

I was referencing

Vibrant Celebrity

, and that I like our, i enjoy our very own different cultural factors, you realize.

Christina:

I really like all of our brains.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

I think minds are beautiful.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Fine,

Paid in Paradise

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noise enjoyable. I want with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. Plus its fun ’cause it is a genuine guide.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Tell me how you feel

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about.

Drew:

Okay, I Obtained it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a new homosexual witch is actually struggling to produce lease in the early months of this pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Together with landlord is like, “No, you need to still give money.” And she actually is want, “But hunt, like, all these… You know, like, it’s not possible to evict me,” as well as these different things and like, “you need to offer me personally a break,” and “its a pandemic.” And the property manager’s similar, “No, I’m a landlord. I detest you.”

And so subsequently she’s like… She goes, “No, i am a witch,” and so subsequently she starts tormenting the property owner. Really Love story just isn’t together with the property owner, not an enemies-to-lovers situation because—

Christina:

‘Cause landlords tend to be poor. Yes. (laughs)

Drew:

But in fact she realizes that her neighbor normally a witch as well as a lesbian, so they really torment the property manager collectively and fall in love in the process. It sort of has actually like a Roald Dahl power, like

The Twits

. Or

Great Mr. Fox

. Like, there is not really, like… There’s not many dispute as soon as first dispute occurs. Like, each of them only are like, “We’re both witches. We are going to torment this person whom is entitled to be tormented.” Right after which they’ve sex.

Christina:

Which is in fact truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about, alternatively, a female who is, you guessed it, a witch whom returns to the woman hometown where this is the just place that she will do magic—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—because there’s like a miracle lake. This lady has been without capabilities.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she satisfies a, a woman she had a crush on in senior high school. Uh, there is like an entire very long, like, secret world-building thing aided by the area additionally the families that run the city. They get together. It is very nice. Fun publication,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Truthfully, of the ones up until now, that is the one I would personally the majority of want to study.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is quite fun. Uh, there’s a follow up to that guide, but it’s sadly about straight men and women. Thus.

Drew:

Crazy.

Christina:

You win some, you lose some. All right, here is our final any.

Trustworthiness and 2nd Possibilities

,

Whenever Truth Matches Fiction

—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—or

The Brutal Truth

.

Drew:

Ooh. I am going to pick

Whenever Facts Meets Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, definitely sadly from my brain alone. Uh,

The Brutal Truth

, however…

Drew:

The good news is that

The Brutal Truth

and

Whenever Reality Touches Fiction

, I Do Believe both are about the same thing which is—

Christina:

Yeah, they would end up being.

Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Morning Program

as well as Bradley Jackson along with her truth telling. But we imagine if it was released, for copyright explanations they did must transform some particulars. So her name is perhaps not Bradley Jackson any longer, but it’s similarly plotted.

Christina:

Which Will Be a pity because Bradley Jackson is leading among the list of best figure names previously put to paper, um, despite how—

Drew:

Completely.

Christina:

—ridiculous every thing regarding it is. But congratulations on that Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Facts

is focused on a news mogul whom gets control of a striving paper and drops in love with the crime journalist, who writes—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, they have a tremendously sweet coming with each other. The media mogul is obviously very mean and like 20 years older than she actually is. This really is amazing material.

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

And I will, because I worry such for the listeners, demonstrably feature website links to any or all of the genuine publications during the program notes.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

And the rest of all of them, they’re going to return into my personal mind in which they belong. Also, discovering brands of books… Like I am able to come up with plots for a romance novels the entire day. Titles is actually, like, actually shockingly challenging.

Drew:

Yeah, you did great.

Christina:

Thank you so much. I recently needed that praise.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

The extremely special visitor is among my personal favorite individuals thirst about famous people with. Therefore unique guest, the trend is to present yourself so we could possibly get into celeb crush chat?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. Really a— And Drew. Hello. I, Im Jordan Crucchiola. Assuming you listen to some of my personal podcasts, you have begun together with the straightforward Podcast that I did with Christina. And as we mentioned as I signed on to this cam, the past time we had been on a pod together was actually when we happened to be choosing Blake vibrant.

Christina:

And, when I remember, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis just in a tiny bit Zoom part.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

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Christina:

There she is. She’s got a great deal locks. What is actually taking place? She is talkin’ to you for such a long time.

Jordan:

Opt for Jesus, Blake. Thanks.

Christina:

It had been untamed instances. Wild times.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Do you want to state a little more about who you really are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, we, I would like to point out that Im an individual who likes Drew Gregory’s what I think about to get conclusive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. Thank you so much.

Jordan:

There was certain one in which, um… as the show helps make me so incredibly… Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from God.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

Plus the show can make myself exceptionally unpleasant in how the unmarried brain trust founder, executor, manufacturer, movie director, blogger, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.